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Yumm...Exotix! 
Pop! Pop! Hope no on sees me getting freaky. FOR SALE- My 2005 Tama Red VikingClick Here For Picture
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Get that picture out of here, Funk Drum! Mine are way cooler. Now watch me steal YOUR thunder. Why are you selling those anyway? 
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Because they haven't been out of the cases for over a year. When I bought these I didn't expect to be playing as much as I do. I don't see me having the need for two kits in the next few years and I won't have a place to setup two kits either. So if someone who has always wanted a Red Viking wants one, they can buy mine.
Pop! Pop! Hope no on sees me getting freaky. FOR SALE- My 2005 Tama Red VikingClick Here For Picture
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You should invest in some new Starcast mounts in gun metal to match rest of the beauty!!
Starclassic Performer b/b (RSF)
PL62ZS(but not hyper-drive)
Tama & Yamaha hardware
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Wow, I can't recall when was this released, but they sure look beautiful! More info on them, please?
Information is not knowledge, knowledge is not wisdom, wisdom is not truth,
truth is not beauty, beauty is not love, love is not music. Music is the best. - Frank Zappa
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Don't really know a lot more. I saw them at the website of a Dutch Drumstore. I know they're limited, and that the finish is called Black Banded Quilted Bubinga or officially BBQ ;)
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sticktodrum wrote:Zwhaler wrote:<P> k3v1n wrote:why do they make so little of these kits and why are they so rare? </P> <P>because every companys gotta have somethin that will make people jealous! lol</P> <P> </P> <P>lol, Tama has Lars and Portnoy.</P> <P>One of my "friends" that lives out in Brooklyn has an Exotix from 2004. His parents bought it for him, and the kid can't even play. (I'm not being mean, he's utterly horrible) He treats it like crap. There are dents and scratches (noticable ones) alllllll over it. I saw it last like 2 months ago, and I almost cried. </P> That actually hurts just reading that. 
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Not if you know HTML. :)
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truth is not beauty, beauty is not love, love is not music. Music is the best. - Frank Zappa
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More limited finishes from tama. That comes as a suprise
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I'm drooling over the Satin Koa kit and jazz kit. OMG. My wallet's gonna take a beatin.
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I just don't know what to say . Words fail me. When I was ordering my Hawaiian Thunder Kit couple years ago I felt like buying a Bantley. It was quite strange when I had problems with tuning it but I have tried to convince myself it was the matter of my abilities. Lately I was replacing all drumheads and decided to check up the drum shells. I was shocked whent I set my snare drum shell on a flat surface of table.  I was thrilled when I checked all the shells. My local dealer said there's nothing I can do cause it's out of warranty. For God's sake! It is like I have done this by playing the drums. Despite the defect I still love my Exotix but it would be grate if I could tune these beautyful drums. Take a look on them.  Do You have any ideas what could I do with this problem? Thanks for help and sorry for my english.
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Dude, there is nothing wrong with your snare! That slight slope upwards you are seeing when you put the snare on a table is called the SNARE BED. Just about all modern snares made by all the different drum companies cut this small snare bed to keep your snares from rattling all the time. The size and the shape of the snare bed will very from make to make but all snares have them. If you look at each side of the shell where the snare throw-off is located, you will see this idention and it's totally normal. I used to make custom drums for a living and always cut snare beds in each snare I ever made unless the customer disn't want them. Plus let me tell you, there is NO flat surfaces in your house that you should rely on when checking a drum shell for flatness. Most furniture has an acceptable degree of variations in height from one part of the surface to the other. To accurately check a drum shell, you need a special tool that most drum manufacturers use in the prodiction of drums called a Granite Surface Plate. These huge pieces of granite are milled within a certain +/- 1/10000 accurate of being perfectly flat. They are carefully made in an exacting process in a lab ands made for this purpose. They are somewhat heavy and expensive so some drummers use a mirror and and put a light inside the drumshell to check for variances in the edges of the shells. I have one in my drum workshop and rely on it daily.
The skill of properly tuning a drum is a lost art. Have you ever owned a Bubinga Kit before? Each wood species has it's own inherent characteristics that you need to keep in mind when it comes to Head Selection and Tuning. Bubinga wood has a characteristic of bringing out low tones and being very punchy while not having the long sustain of Maple. I would recommend you go to to YouTube, type in BOB GATZEN for your search and watch all of his videos on proper drum tuning technique for bass drums, toms, and snares. The guy is a genius as he has a big hand in helping Evans create drum heads. He knows everything you will ever need to know about proper tuning. Remember, each drum shell when stripped of hardware, lugs, rims, heads, has a basic fundemental note. Establish the note of each shell and tune close to that as a starting point. This is somewhat similar to DW's Timbre Matching but they put a lot fo hype and rhetoric in this simple theory.
I noticed in your pics, your toms have moongel or gaffer tape on the heads. A properly tuned drum in pitch with itself doesn't need any external muffling. Let them expensive drums sing for heaven's sake. Don't do like they did in the late 70's and early 80's by killing the resonance with tape. If you have questions, post up.
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Tama Starclassic Maple in Piano Black Lacquer: 7x8, 8x10, 8x12, 9x13, 14x16FT, 15x18FT, 18x20BD, 14x20 Gong Bass Drum
Tama Starclassic Performer in Red Sparkle Fade Lacquer: 8x8, 8x10, 8x12, 12x14FT, 14x16FT, 16x18FT, 18x22BD, 14x20 Gong Bass Drum,
Tama Stewart Copeland Signature Snare Drum
6.5x14 Tama Starclassic Birch Performer Snare Red Sparkle Fade
5.5x14 Tama Starclassic Birch Performer Snare Red Sparkle Fade
Full Set of 8 Tama Octobans
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Double Pedal
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Single Pedal
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Now, that is a VERY correct answer in everything!! ;), I use bubinga omni tune, all the biggest sizes with 24bass drum! I NEVER taped a single drum from 8,10,12,13,14,16,18, live or in the studio ;)
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Sandman, thanx for response.
I did the same test today but on a thick mirror and it's not so bad (assuming the mirror might not be 100% flat). I didn't know about the snare bed at all... is there a special way of tuning the snare side then?
As for the tuning generally.
I've checked the basic fundemental note of every shell in my set before the first tuning and since it's not a nice melody I've decided to tune my drums to a specific notes: 8" to A (E,As), 10" to E (B,F), 12" to B(Fis,C), 14" to G (D,Gis) and 16" to D(A,Dis). In fact these notes are consequence of harmonic approach to tuning which I've probably brought to drumming from piano episode in my life. I use moongel on 12", 14" & 16" toms cause I have always had problems with tunig them. I'm not a fan of using these stuff but as long as don't get these toms tuned well I have to use them.
PS. I'll PM to You soon if You don't mind (I have couple questions and You might have the answers :)
Burrito, I'm very interested in sound of Your bubinga omni tune. Do You have any samples of Your studio sessions??
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Szuler...If you have that much trouble tuning them by ear, I would simply invest in a tuning watch...Tama makes them, but I have a Drum Dial. You are going to have people that will tell you they are no good, but I find that they help you get in the ball park of where you want to be! You will find that you still have to make some minor adjustments, but it will help with the general tension and tuning of all the drums. Watch some vids on how to use it on Youtube and make your mind up. I have been playing for a long time, so I have the tuning thing down, but I find that the Drum Dial helps me tune quicker. Moongel is great, but I only use it on my metal drums to help control the ring. With the right tuning you won't need any on your toms, especially on a quality kit like yours. Good luck!
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It's all a matter of taste as to how to tune the snare side head. I tighten mine up just enought to remove the wrinkles from the head. I push on the very center of the head and tighten the tension rods until the wrinkles disappear. There are big variances in snare beds from manufacturer to manufacturer. Myself, I like to cut a 4" wide snare bed about 3/16" deep at the center of the peak. Believe me, if you Tama didn't install snare beds, you would have a helluva time tuning to remove the buzz. Sympathetic buzz would run rampant when you struck the toms. Here's a nice post at the remo forum on snare beds: http://www.remo.com/forum/post/view?bid=3&id=26738&sty=3
Proud owner of 2 Tama Starclassic Kits: Soon to be 3 Tama Starclassic Maple in Piano Black Lacquer: 7x8, 8x10, 8x12, 9x13, 14x16FT, 15x18FT, 18x20BD, 14x20 Gong Bass Drum Tama Starclassic Performer in Red Sparkle Fade Lacquer: 8x8, 8x10, 8x12, 12x14FT, 14x16FT, 16x18FT, 18x22BD, 14x20 Gong Bass Drum, Tama Stewart Copeland Signature Snare Drum 6.5x14 Tama Starclassic Birch Performer Snare Red Sparkle Fade 5.5x14 Tama Starclassic Birch Performer Snare Red Sparkle Fade Full Set of 8 Tama Octobans Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Double Pedal Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Single Pedal Tama Rhythm Watch Tama Tension Dial
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That B/B Natural Bop kit looks pretty nice. I kind of wish they offered this is the states, I might have pull the trigger.
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