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miniportnoy wrote:Has anyone else noticed that TAMA has been giving SC Performer B/B the "short end of the stick." By this I mean, have you noticed that Performer B/B has way less options than Maple and Bubinga.
Here's some negative differences:
-No Hoop colour options
-Not as many finishes
-No minimum contact
-No "Hold Tight" washers
Positive differences:
-Better looking tom holder
-Less expensive
-More shell pack combos You forgot a few things: Postives: 10 lug bass drums Negatives: Lower quality tom holder on bass drum...ie...protrudes into shell. Taking things one step further......lack of Virgin bass drum as standard. And the washer thing....thats trivial.....just buy your own.
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Six-Ply wrote:I don't like anything penetrating me....or my Bass drum shell.  I hope I'm not misinterpreting you, but I think you are nagging without reason. As you can clearly see on the pictures below taken in the store I work in, the tomholder does not penetrate the bassdrum shell. Also, 2 of the 4 standard configurations are without a tombracket on the bassdrum, and these drums are off course sold seperately as well... Personally I think the B/B's are very well equipped and have features for both the pro and the semi-pro.    Greetings from the Netherlands! Peter
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I agree with peterrobbemond. If you're worried about the sound, having a non-penetrating mount barely affects the sound. If you don't like the way it looks, you can remove the tom mount and all you have are 4 barely noticable screw holes. I've viewed many B/B and full birch kits where I didn't realize they weren't originally virgin until someone told me, and then I looked and noticed that they had covered the holes with little rubber things. I don't see this as being a huge issue. And as was also mentioned, 2 of the 4 configurations come with virgin bass drums.
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Six-Ply wrote:spikeman23 wrote:Like i said , It makes more sense just to get a full bubinga kit. lol, It would be more costly to anyone, Not just myself to do all that . If someone wants the Birch/Bubinga shell then how is going to a full Bubinga oir MAple shell even comparable? ONE. It's not. Because a maple or bubinga drum is going to sound completely different. I was talking about the cost factor in terms of adding things on as opposed to dropping money on the full sc bubinga which is what i'm doing.
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peterrobbemond wrote:Six-Ply wrote:I don't like anything penetrating me....or my Bass drum shell. I hope I'm not misinterpreting you, but I think you are nagging without reason. As you can clearly see on the pictures below taken in the store I work in, the tomholder does not penetrate the bassdrum shell. Also, 2 of the 4 standard configurations are without a tombracket on the bassdrum, and these drums are off course sold seperately as well... Peter Well I thought the mount penetrates the shell since they changed the design and it looks like it does by looking at it from the outside. It has more in common with the all Birch Performers where theres a plate and no hole....I can live with that. So from this point I guess I'll stop worrying about those little things and just find a setup in a configuration I want in a finish I like.
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spikeman23 wrote: It's not. Because a maple or bubinga drum is going to sound completely different. I totally agree. I think the B/B sounds very good and has a very unique sound. I'd still love to see the original full birch performer come back, but the B/B is a keeper!
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harmlessgoat22 wrote:If you don't like the way it looks, you can remove the tom mount and all you have are 4 barely noticable screw holes. Just wondering here, does it still have the finish underneath the mount?
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Yep, it's finished under the mount.
Tama Starclassic Performer B/B in Dark Stardust Fade
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But, you'll have to remove the bracket to be able to see that, since the brackethole ends with a metal stopper.
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peterrobbemond wrote:spikeman23 wrote: It's not. Because a maple or bubinga drum is going to sound completely different. I totally agree. I think the B/B sounds very good and has a very unique sound. I'd still love to see the original full birch performer come back, but the B/B is a keeper! I don't see them bringing that back.
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Well, of course they're not gonna bring back full birch performer because they have Starworks now.
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Starworks is a mid class series; I mean a actual top-line birch kit.
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miniportnoy wrote:Well, of course they're not gonna bring back full birch performer because they have Starworks now. Well the starworks is basswood and birch i believe. But they won't bring back a full birch kit because the al birch performers got replaced with the birch/bubinga kits. So it would be pointless to offer to performer kits really.
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Starworks are 100% birch from what i understand. i actually would like to get my hands on and review one of the cherry burst sets.
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spikeman23 wrote:miniportnoy wrote:Well, of course they're not gonna bring back full birch performer because they have Starworks now. Well the starworks is basswood and birch i believe. But they won't bring back a full birch kit because the al birch performers got replaced with the birch/bubinga kits. So it would be pointless to offer to performer kits really. "Superstar" is Birch and Basswood, "Starworks" is all 100% Birch.
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ricohorton wrote:Starworks are 100% birch from what i understand. i actually would like to get my hands on and review one of the cherry burst sets. I don't now. They don't realy interest me as i do hae a full birch performer kit from 2000. And skulled got a chance to try a kit out he said it basically sounded like ass. The wrap is too thick and he said it really choked the sound. A it is using the cheaper tom holders.
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