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Preferred heads on maple starclassic?
Darren
#1 Posted : 11/22/2010 2:14:09 PM
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What do you guys prefer on the starclassic maple? Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere..
Currently on my kit I have evans G2 coated on all toms and evans EQ3's on both the batter and res side of the bass.

Underside of the toms are remo ambassador's..

Just wondering what you guys prefer and what your using for general rock/metal and all round use.

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#2 Posted : 11/22/2010 3:12:42 PM
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Really just a matter of personal preference. You'll get a thousand different opinions but I'll play. For Maples, I really like Evans G2 clears on the batter side and Evans G1 Clear for resonant side. I think coated heads take away too much of the sweet overtones of the maple shells. The clears let the shell sing as they were designed. For the bass drum, Evans GMAD on the batter side paired with EMAD Resonant Bass Drumhead with zero muffling stuffed in the bass drum to choke it.
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#3 Posted : 11/22/2010 4:48:56 PM
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Yea I agree with the sandman, coated takes too much away. I had Evans G2 batters on the old maple kit, also used the EC1 from Evans it worked well also.


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#4 Posted : 11/23/2010 1:56:26 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions guys..will definately look into those..
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#5 Posted : 11/23/2010 2:15:01 PM
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evans G2 coated batters. i use clear g2s over g1s on bubinga and b/b. the maple needs some extra control for the sound i like and the coating helps without needing muffling. i use remo coated emporers on my yamaha maple customs absolute's and they sound fantastic too.

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#6 Posted : 11/23/2010 3:19:50 PM
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As always I'm in the minority...

Starclassic Maple: REMO Clear Emperor batters over Clear Ambassadors for resonant heads. (Sorry, I don't like "Clear Evans" heads on Maple).

However, if you do want the warm sound of a coated heads, the Evans G1 (not G2) Coated over G1 Clear does sound nice.

And on Starclassic Bubinga and Performer B/B I do prefer the Evans G2 clear over G1 clear.

For bass drums (all of the above), I'll stick with the Evans EMAD (single ply) batter and EQ3 reso!
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#7 Posted : 11/24/2010 5:47:24 PM
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On my Starclassic Maples I've always loved the sound of Coated G1's top and Clear G1's bottom, followed by Clear G1's top and bottom, but they tend to lose the best of their tone pretty quickly. So I usually end up with Clear G2's on top for durability's sake. The next time I buy heads for it it'll be Evan G Plus. On the kick I've used EQ1 batter heads since they were invented and never looked back. An EQ1 on the front (or the Tama pre damped logo head) with a 4" hole about 2" from the edge (with one of the Holz edge protectors) with a and no additional damping. Hole is just big enough to get a Beta 52 in.
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#8 Posted : 11/28/2010 10:58:26 PM
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On my Tama Starclassic Maple I like having Evans coated G2 on the batter side with clear G1 on the reso side of all the toms. Bass drum I use Remo Powerstroke 3 on the batter and just the Tama Starclassic skin on the reso. Snare is coated G2 over clear Remo Ambassador. Im thinking of switching the clear G2's on all the toms though, so we'll see how that turns out for me :)
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#9 Posted : 12/1/2010 3:14:53 PM
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Right now I have coated vintage ambassadors on my star classic maples, w a moon gel on the 6.5 snare. The vintage gives the toms a nice fat sound in my basement, but when I was gigging it was regular coated ambassadors. I'm thinking of trying some ambassador Xs next. For whatever reason, I have learned that I prefer remo over alll other heads, cept that evens eq bass head, that sounds great, no muffling
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#10 Posted : 12/6/2010 6:48:18 PM
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I have been using clear Remo Ambassators since 1977 and never tried any other heads they seem to use all of what the drum can produce and not chock the sound.
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#11 Posted : 12/10/2010 3:25:58 AM
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G1 on the bottom, and these drums can take any top head, and produce recording quality sounds. We all know what kinds of sounds the different heads produce. Do you want the pop and thunder of 2 ply coated, the fat low tuning ability of a EC2 or pinstripe, or the clarity and sustain of a single ply? It all depends on what fits the music you play. I play mostly rock and I find that the G2 coated punches through gates easier and has a little extra high mid bite that helps the toms pop out in a mix, especially if you do a lot of "tribal" beats on the toms. I also use G2 clear sometimes. You really cant go wrong.
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#12 Posted : 12/10/2010 4:51:50 AM
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Remo Clear Emporers on the Batter side and the Remo Clear Diplomats on the resonant side of the toms. Really opens them up.

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#13 Posted : 12/21/2010 2:41:04 PM
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Hi there.

I have been trying so many different combinations of heads, for batter and reso side. Evans G1 and G2 aswell as Remo Ambassadors Clear and coated, Emperors and Diplomats. It was years of searching for the ultimate drum set sound.

To me, the classic combination of Ambassador Clear as batter and Diplomat as resonance head is it. They have a very fine responsiveness when played quietly, and they are rich of overtones when played louder. And the Ambassadors have got a crisp attack and sound great to my ears. And above that, they are so durable for that thin material. I love them.

For my bass drum (20" x 16") I go with a Remo Pin Stripe Clear as batter and an Ambassador Clear as resonance head. Yes, really! And it's great sounding, when you know how to muffle it. Very fat, open bass sound, and a good kick!

Well, this head combination goes for some kind of musical styles, and for some other it don't work in the least! Any kind of metal or punk rock thing would ask for different head combinations, I guess...

However, I think it's the best way to find what you really want and need. Well, it's much work, changing all the heads over and over again, and it's an expensive way, maybe - but In the end, all the searching was worth it: now that I know what I want, I don't need to try and change no never no more.

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#14 Posted : 12/21/2010 3:45:10 PM
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Finally changing out the orig. G2s. I put clear emps on my Christmas list. Can't wait to check them out.
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#16 Posted : 12/23/2010 11:46:48 AM
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Has anyone tried the Evans EC2 or the SST versions too on their maples?

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#17 Posted : 12/23/2010 2:13:30 PM
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I have Evans EC2 SST clear batter heads and Evans Resonant Glass resonant heads on my Starclassic Maple kit (with Sound Focus Rings) and, in my opinion, they sound awesome! They produce exactly the fat, controlled sound I'm looking for from my drums. Give 'em a try!
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#18 Posted : 12/23/2010 6:36:08 PM
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I'm also rocking the Evans EC2 SSTs on my Starclassic Maple kit. Resos are Clear G1s. Overall, I like how the new SST revision of the EC2 head performs MUCH better/more evenly across all five of my toms (8", 10", 12", 14", 16"), but... I will most likely be going back to Clear G2s for tom batters when these fully wear out. I've noticed some of the "SST" ink used to shape/muffle the sound is cracking and falling off. Plus, I just think the Clear G2s have a more pleasing voice when it comes to this kit. Definitely check them out though!
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#19 Posted : 1/6/2011 7:16:01 PM
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Just a little update guys!!

took the toms to my local drum store (100 miles away)..

the guys in there were gracious enough to let me test a few different heads on my kit..

final verdict....

Remo emperors on the batter side and Remo ambassador on the reso.

they came out on top..4 of us in the store and we all agreed on the same..
i was expecting them to be too bright with maple..but i was actually surprised by the depth and punch they gave..

great heads...very pleased!!..HappyHappy

Darren
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#20 Posted : 1/7/2011 11:08:56 AM
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Clear?

That's really cool that they let you try out different heads.
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#21 Posted : 1/7/2011 12:14:35 PM
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Stewart Moonrichozzio wrote:
Clear?

That's really cool that they let you try out different heads.


Sorry Stewart I should have been a bit more specific..yeah both clear sets..

The toms now sound really sweet.nice attack and punch and great tone coming through..both sets of heads tuned to the same pitch.

They were really cool guys in there..I'd travel there more often as they have a great selection of gear..just the 200 mile round trip gets in the way!!

Darren
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