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My Speed Cobra has arrived
ricohorton
#1 Posted : 12/6/2010 2:06:59 PM
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Speed cobra pedal has come home from Santa for Christmas.
I played it at saturdays rehearsal and i was so tickled to be playing it and it felt so good under my feet. i will be using it at its stock beater angle and foot board angle out of the box for awhile. the only thing i change was the spring tension which i cranked up a bit to balance the weight of the beaters. the other thing is i moved the right master beater over to space the beaters apart from each other and center it better on the batter head. I also set the cobra coil at its furthest back setting for more response of the foot board. the bearings are very smooth. no wobble or clicking observed or noted when used. the long board is wonderful to use as well with plenty of room and i call my pedal long board chain drive. the board measure just almost 13 1/2 inches to the end of the heel plate. in regards to the new case it is tougher looking and has hinges which is nice touch compared to my standard iron cobra case of my 2007 series ic.







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#2 Posted : 12/6/2010 3:25:53 PM
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Nice!!! I played a gig last weekend with my Speed Cobras and my double bass runs sounded so much cleaner and it took much less effort to create a powerful stroke. My legs felt pretty good at the end of the night and my feet were in absolute heaven on those long footboards. I moved the Cobra Coils all the way to the highest setting and really felt a difference in ease of playing quicker patterns. I will always love and keep one Iron Cobra on hand but the Speed Cobras get the green light for gigging. have you noticed any wobbles or clicks with your Speed Cobra's yet? I have yet to have any wobbles, squeaks, or clicks. Just got my new single Speed Cobra last week for left foot clave patterns and WOW!
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#3 Posted : 12/6/2010 4:58:48 PM
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Nice!!! I played a gig last weekend with my Speed Cobras and my double bass runs sounded so much cleaner and it took much less effort to create a powerful stroke. My legs felt pretty good at the end of the night and my feet were in absolute heaven on those long footboards. I moved the Cobra Coils all the way to the highest setting and really felt a difference in ease of playing quicker patterns. I will always love and keep one Iron Cobra on hand but the Speed Cobras get the green light for gigging. have you noticed any wobbles or clicks with your Speed Cobra's yet? I have yet to have any wobbles, squeaks, or clicks. Just got my new single Speed Cobra last week for left foot clave patterns and WOW!

No movement whatsoever i could detect at all. no wobble no clicks. the bearings fit very snug and smooth as silk. the only thing i noticed that i did not like is adjusting the beater. its not easy to go from the pointed wedge to flat felt surface. the core is knurled so it is difficult to turn even with the key bolt loosened all the way. i may order me some wood beaters for this pedal to try. i have slug beaters, speedball beaters, Pearl quad beaters but i have not tried different beaters yet to see how the pedal plays with various beaters.
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#6 Posted : 12/6/2010 6:14:02 PM
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It looks nice. I see the carrying case has hinges now. I always had problems with carrying case cracking.
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#7 Posted : 12/6/2010 6:26:21 PM
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Grof Drobikus wrote:
It looks nice. I see the carrying case has hinges now. I always had problems with carrying case cracking.

yes the new case is much improved

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#8 Posted : 12/6/2010 6:44:41 PM
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+ 1 on the new carrying case. It is a bit nicer than the Irona Cobra case. It's big sucker with those long footboards.
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#9 Posted : 12/6/2010 7:53:24 PM
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+ 1 on the new carrying case. It is a bit nicer than the Irona Cobra case. It's big sucker with those long footboards.

yes agree it is more solid/ tuffer made than the iron cobras case. tama should replace the iron cobra case with this type of hinge case.
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#10 Posted : 12/6/2010 8:33:07 PM
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I have a feeling Tama will probably not throw any more R&D money at the Iron Cobra. They probably figure they have carried that model as far as it can go after 20 years on the market....even though they have yet to offer a direct drive version. I bet the Iron Cobra disappears in 3-4 years once they sell off all the stock. I am holding onto my Iron Cobra Double Pedal for a rainy day.
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#11 Posted : 12/6/2010 9:05:05 PM
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I have a feeling Tama will probably not throw any more R&D money at the Iron Cobra. They probably figure they have carried that model as far as it can go after 20 years on the market....even though they have yet to offer a direct drive version. I bet the Iron Cobra disappears in 3-4 years once they sell off all the stock. I am holding onto my Iron Cobra Double Pedal for a rainy day.

ya i am hanging onto my ic as well for now and keep setup for practice at home.
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#12 Posted : 12/6/2010 10:32:36 PM
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#13 Posted : 12/7/2010 8:37:05 AM
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Rico-Great minds tend to think alike. Dance Dance
i have the pedal hooked up to the gibraltar pad at home under the pc desk. i play the thing while i am on the computer. some people collect snares some cymbals i seem to be hooked on the mechanics of pedals and how they operate. weird i guess.Doh
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#16 Posted : 12/7/2010 12:36:00 PM
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Hey Rico. Are the pedal lengths on the SC the same lengths on other long boards? Such as Axis or Pearl long board pedals? It doesn't make a difference, I was just wondering.
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#17 Posted : 12/7/2010 12:54:48 PM
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jwallacet wrote:
Hey Rico. Are the pedal lengths on the SC the same lengths on other long boards? Such as Axis or Pearl long board pedals? It doesn't make a difference, I was just wondering.

i don't remember the length of the others. and i have never measured the demon drive pedal. maybe some other people can chime here that have measured boards recently. i can tell you that the regular IC measures 10 1/2 to the end of hinge. the SpeedCobra is 11 3/4 to the backend of the hinge and just under 13 1/2 to the back end of the heel plate. the IC is 12 3/4 to the back-end of heel plate. so not too big a jump but enough to make a difference. what really makes the board look longer is that the board is pulled back with a longer base plate which makes the chain angle back more as well to give the beater more throw and power sorta like a catapult effect if that is a proper description.
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#4 Posted : 12/7/2010 2:50:06 PM
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ricohorton wrote:
i may order me some wood beaters for this pedal to try. i have slug beaters, speedball beaters, Pearl quad beaters but i have not tried different beaters yet to see how the pedal plays with various beaters.[/color]



Hey rico, I've been waiting for you (or sandman) to have a go with other beaters on the SC. Keep us updated!





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#5 Posted : 12/7/2010 3:28:15 PM
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ricohorton wrote:
i may order me some wood beaters for this pedal to try. i have slug beaters, speedball beaters, Pearl quad beaters but i have not tried different beaters yet to see how the pedal plays with various beaters.[/color]



Hey rico, I've been waiting for you (or sandman) to have a go with other beaters on the SC. Keep us updated!
i just took what i call the SC wedgy beaters off and put the Slug beaters on. i'll let you know. i still have to order some regular Tama ic wood beaters as thats what i want to try on it.
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#18 Posted : 12/7/2010 4:49:05 PM
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I had another go at the stock Speed Cobra beaters on my practice kit and like RicoHorton said earllier, the stock beaters are near impossible to change postion now that the beater mount is knurled metal instead of smooth like the Iron Cobras. I had to remove the beaters from the pedal to change it over to the flat spots on the stock beater. Played with the flat spot square against the head and then went back to the pointed edge. I found the pointed edge does give some more attack and it does articulate well when it comes to distinguishing quick bass drum patterns within flurries of beats but it just doesn't provide the balls like I want to hear. I went back to my wood beaters from my Iron Cobras and happy as a clam again. I was lucky and bought the Iron Cobra Double Pedal last year when they had the bonus packs which included 6 beaters and Tama penlight. I have two hard rubber beaters, 2 felt beaters, and 2 wood beaters to choose from and I always keep them all in my stickbag to change on the fly depending on the situation. The Speed Cobra stock beaters would be great for a jazz player with nice articulation but if you slam hard like I do, you just can't beat the old Iron Cobra style beaters.
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#14 Posted : 12/7/2010 5:20:18 PM
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ricohorton wrote:
i seem to be hooked on the mechanics of pedals and how they operate.

Welcome to the club. :D
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#15 Posted : 12/7/2010 6:55:57 PM
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Grof Drobikus wrote:
ricohorton wrote:
i seem to be hooked on the mechanics of pedals and how they operate.

Welcome to the club. :D
thanks, as you know i have had my share of various pedals.Whistle
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#19 Posted : 12/8/2010 10:08:57 AM
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Dance added couple of ugly feet clips this morning with cell phone.
the quick tour
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ugly feetWhistle
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#20 Posted : 12/8/2010 10:14:43 AM
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Thanks for throwing these up. Good stuff.


Thanks for doing the 2nd one naked too. Wall
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