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New 12x8 Imperialstar toms?
ohlarikd
#1 Posted : 9/28/2016 12:07:47 AM

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I recently saw a few 12x8 Imperialstar toms on eBay, 1 red a few silver. I bought a red one to use as a 'stunt drum' since I haven't found a Cherry Wine Superstar in that size in over 2 years. I will probably find one tomorrow now... The Vintage Red is pretty nice actually.

Anyway, where are these 12x8s coming from? I don't see them in any configuration or special order. And don't say 'China' smarta$$es....






From a small distance, the tom matches pretty well, even though it has a very slight sparkle in the wrap.

2015 Starclassic Bubinga, Made in Japan, LUM Magnetic Orange / Chrome, 24x16/13x9/16x14
Straight T Badge CW Superstars, 6/8/10/12/12/13/15/18/24x16/24x16
2014 Silverstar Maple (Dale's Drum Shop Exclusive), Super Honey Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x6 snare
2011-2012(?) Silverstar Birch Transparent Blue Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x5 snare
Snares: Starclassic Select Walnut 14x5.5, 40th Anniversary CW 14x6.5, Silverstar Mirage 14x6, Metalworks Satin Bronze 14x6, Superstar Classic Cherry Wine 14x6.5
4 Starclassic Lug High Pitch Octobans with Stilt stand
Need 80-83 Straight T Badge Superstar, stained bearing edge, Cherry Wine: 12x8
Want: Superstar Hyperdrive Maples
Want: 2012 Starclassic Select Walnut kit
Want: Silverstars Transparent Black VL84RBD2
mr. sticks
#2 Posted : 1/9/2017 3:33:48 PM
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I'm curious to know as well because the 9x12 is the only one on the website
Crestar (8x 12 mounted tom, 13 x14 floor tom, 16x22 bass drum)
Granstar (mounted tom 11 x12 ,12x13 floor tom,16x18 kick drum)
Imperialstar (mounted tom 8x 12, floor tom 14x14 ,kick drum 14x20 )
Swingstar (mounted tom 9x13 ,floor toms 16x16,16x18 kick drum 16x24)
Swingstar (mounted tom 8x12, mounted tom 13x14 ,kick drum 14x22 )
Imperialstar (mounted tom 12x15, floor tom 16x16x, floor tom 16x18, kick drum 14x24)
snares (6.5x14 fibrestar,6.5x 14 swingstar steel shell,6.5x14 royalstar steel shell,5x14 swingstar wood shell,5x14 swingstar steel shell×2,6.5x14 granstar wood shell snare 6.5x14 artwood maple,6.5x14 Granstar steel shell snare 6.5x14 imperialstar steel shell snare x3 )


Wish list :6x14 carbon fiber ,6x14 superstar birch,6x14 superstar maple, 6x14 bell brass, 6x14 rosewood, 6x14 spotted gum, 6x14 bubinga, 6x14 brass,6x14 aluminum, 6x14 cordia 6x14 bronze,6x14 bill bruford signature copper, 6x14 bill bruford signature maple/birch/maple

vintage imps with 70s thick reso rings.
ohlarikd
#3 Posted : 1/10/2017 2:03:21 AM

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Mystery Tama things appear on eBay with some frequency, and there is never any explanation why they even exist.
2015 Starclassic Bubinga, Made in Japan, LUM Magnetic Orange / Chrome, 24x16/13x9/16x14
Straight T Badge CW Superstars, 6/8/10/12/12/13/15/18/24x16/24x16
2014 Silverstar Maple (Dale's Drum Shop Exclusive), Super Honey Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x6 snare
2011-2012(?) Silverstar Birch Transparent Blue Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x5 snare
Snares: Starclassic Select Walnut 14x5.5, 40th Anniversary CW 14x6.5, Silverstar Mirage 14x6, Metalworks Satin Bronze 14x6, Superstar Classic Cherry Wine 14x6.5
4 Starclassic Lug High Pitch Octobans with Stilt stand
Need 80-83 Straight T Badge Superstar, stained bearing edge, Cherry Wine: 12x8
Want: Superstar Hyperdrive Maples
Want: 2012 Starclassic Select Walnut kit
Want: Silverstars Transparent Black VL84RBD2
Dan@Tama
#4 Posted : 1/10/2017 5:33:52 PM
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........................................good one.

My guess is that it might have been a dealer's prop model kit, or sample kits.
Dan from Hoshino USA
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Tama Superstar Hyperdrive in Copper Mist burst
8x6 Tom/10x6.5 Tom/12x7 Tom/14x12 Floor/16x14 Floor/22x20-22x20 Bass Drums
Tama SLP Black Brass 14x6.5 Snare Drum
Speed Cobra Pedals
Tama Roadpro Hardware
Tama 1st Chair
Tama Speed Cobra Double Pedals
Evans Drumheads
Vater Drumsticks
Meinl MB10/MB8/Byzance/Generation X/Soundcaster Fusion Cymbals and Rugs

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mr. sticks on 1/12/2017(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 1/11/2017 2:21:18 AM

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Originally Posted by: Dan@Tama Go to Quoted Post
........................................good one.

My guess is that it might have been a dealer's prop model kit, or sample kits.



What is a 'prop' or 'sample' kit? I mean, where did they source a 12x8 tom in the first place? There are silver, red, and blue ones. Just curious!

2015 Starclassic Bubinga, Made in Japan, LUM Magnetic Orange / Chrome, 24x16/13x9/16x14
Straight T Badge CW Superstars, 6/8/10/12/12/13/15/18/24x16/24x16
2014 Silverstar Maple (Dale's Drum Shop Exclusive), Super Honey Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x6 snare
2011-2012(?) Silverstar Birch Transparent Blue Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x5 snare
Snares: Starclassic Select Walnut 14x5.5, 40th Anniversary CW 14x6.5, Silverstar Mirage 14x6, Metalworks Satin Bronze 14x6, Superstar Classic Cherry Wine 14x6.5
4 Starclassic Lug High Pitch Octobans with Stilt stand
Need 80-83 Straight T Badge Superstar, stained bearing edge, Cherry Wine: 12x8
Want: Superstar Hyperdrive Maples
Want: 2012 Starclassic Select Walnut kit
Want: Silverstars Transparent Black VL84RBD2
Dan@Tama
#6 Posted : 1/11/2017 1:38:05 PM
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Originally Posted by: ohlarikd Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Dan@Tama Go to Quoted Post
........................................good one.

My guess is that it might have been a dealer's prop model kit, or sample kits.



What is a 'prop' or 'sample' kit? I mean, where did they source a 12x8 tom in the first place? There are silver, red, and blue ones. Just curious!




Occasionally, we'll do a limited finish/configuration for certain dealers, for example the Superstar Hyperdrive Maples are a "prop" kit for GC's stores and affiliates. Other dealers have had limited colors only available to them. In some cases we'll create drum kits to send to our sales reps as well. I could be dead wrong with this instance, but more than likely, that's what this is.
Dan from Hoshino USA
Tama Drums/Ibanez Guitars/2Box Percussion

Drum Setup
Tama Superstar Hyperdrive in Copper Mist burst
8x6 Tom/10x6.5 Tom/12x7 Tom/14x12 Floor/16x14 Floor/22x20-22x20 Bass Drums
Tama SLP Black Brass 14x6.5 Snare Drum
Speed Cobra Pedals
Tama Roadpro Hardware
Tama 1st Chair
Tama Speed Cobra Double Pedals
Evans Drumheads
Vater Drumsticks
Meinl MB10/MB8/Byzance/Generation X/Soundcaster Fusion Cymbals and Rugs

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mr. sticks on 1/12/2017(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 6/7/2017 8:24:19 PM

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The color is actually Candy Apple Mist, not Vintage Red. Vintage Red comes with Black Chrome hardware and this is Chrome. I just bought a new Candy Apple Mist Imperialstar snare and the color matches the tom, so I am quite sure its CPM.


Would be nice to find a 13x9 in this color....
2015 Starclassic Bubinga, Made in Japan, LUM Magnetic Orange / Chrome, 24x16/13x9/16x14
Straight T Badge CW Superstars, 6/8/10/12/12/13/15/18/24x16/24x16
2014 Silverstar Maple (Dale's Drum Shop Exclusive), Super Honey Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x6 snare
2011-2012(?) Silverstar Birch Transparent Blue Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x5 snare
Snares: Starclassic Select Walnut 14x5.5, 40th Anniversary CW 14x6.5, Silverstar Mirage 14x6, Metalworks Satin Bronze 14x6, Superstar Classic Cherry Wine 14x6.5
4 Starclassic Lug High Pitch Octobans with Stilt stand
Need 80-83 Straight T Badge Superstar, stained bearing edge, Cherry Wine: 12x8
Want: Superstar Hyperdrive Maples
Want: 2012 Starclassic Select Walnut kit
Want: Silverstars Transparent Black VL84RBD2
Bill@Tama
#9 Posted : 6/8/2017 5:04:04 PM
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After a bit of searching, it seems the Imperialstars were produced in an "BOP" configuration in 2014 as a limited item. The IP48RSCPM was a 4 piece configuration SHELL KIT and did not come with cymbals or hardware. This included a 12x8" tom along with a floor, snare, and 18" kick.
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#10 Posted : 6/9/2017 12:09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by: Bill@Tama Go to Quoted Post
After a bit of searching, it seems the Imperialstars were produced in an "BOP" configuration in 2014 as a limited item. The IP48RSCPM was a 4 piece configuration SHELL KIT and did not come with cymbals or hardware. This included a 12x8" tom along with a floor, snare, and 18" kick.



Ah - I see. Thanks Bill! Too bad though, I guess I won't see a 13x9 standard sized tom to go with it.
2015 Starclassic Bubinga, Made in Japan, LUM Magnetic Orange / Chrome, 24x16/13x9/16x14
Straight T Badge CW Superstars, 6/8/10/12/12/13/15/18/24x16/24x16
2014 Silverstar Maple (Dale's Drum Shop Exclusive), Super Honey Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x6 snare
2011-2012(?) Silverstar Birch Transparent Blue Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x5 snare
Snares: Starclassic Select Walnut 14x5.5, 40th Anniversary CW 14x6.5, Silverstar Mirage 14x6, Metalworks Satin Bronze 14x6, Superstar Classic Cherry Wine 14x6.5
4 Starclassic Lug High Pitch Octobans with Stilt stand
Need 80-83 Straight T Badge Superstar, stained bearing edge, Cherry Wine: 12x8
Want: Superstar Hyperdrive Maples
Want: 2012 Starclassic Select Walnut kit
Want: Silverstars Transparent Black VL84RBD2
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