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Dan@Tama
#1 Posted : 8/24/2017 1:06:40 PM
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Hey everyone!

I'm curious to know everyone's set up on your kick drums.

For me, for the main kit which has 2-22x20 Birch Superstar Kicks:

Batter-Evans Heavyweight-tuned pretty much dead center
Reso-Evans EQ3 Reso Black(Ported)-tuned the same

Both have the Evans EQ pillow that just touches the batter heads.

I like big attack and very short sustain on my kicks and this seems to be working great so far.

Whatchu got?
Dan from Hoshino USA
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#2 Posted : 8/24/2017 3:14:08 PM
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I got me a 18x22 bube with Evans EQ1 dry (discontinued) tuned just above wrinkle, and an Evans EMAD 1-ply resonant tuned a quarter-turn JAW. I found me a couple small pillows at a garage sale which I position depending on what I'm playing and how it's mic'd.

Your 22x20 must be cannons!
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#3 Posted : 8/24/2017 6:53:16 PM
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I generally tune the batter (clear GMAD) a bit beyond JAW, with the reso (Onyx, EQ3, or Tama factory) tuned about a third - fifth in pitch higher. There's an Evans EQ pad sitting at the bottom of the shell barely touching the front head, but I'll adjust it depending on the situation or even add in a second pad.

I like a tight sounding kick but still want to hear the depth of the shell.
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#4 Posted : 8/24/2017 8:35:19 PM
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I'm similar: Tune my batter about a half turn JAW, and I check my tones at each lug. Same with the reso, but about a half step higher in tone.
Yog!

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#5 Posted : 8/24/2017 9:11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by: Dan@Tama Go to Quoted Post
I like big attack and very short sustain on my kicks...

larger port hole = more attack

probably wont need the pillow once youve got the port size just right.
on a 22 kick ~ 11" to 13" port is about right.
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#6 Posted : 8/24/2017 9:37:03 PM
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Originally Posted by: ThugsRook Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Dan@Tama Go to Quoted Post
I like big attack and very short sustain on my kicks...

larger port hole = more attack

probably wont need the pillow once youve got the port size just right.
on a 22 kick ~ 11" to 13" port is about right.

Centered or off-center?
ThugsRook
#7 Posted : 8/25/2017 1:40:59 AM
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^ may as well be centered, but doesnt have to be.

the reso will act more like a muffler once youve reached the 50% cutout range.
going past 50% will actually get you more resonation.
dial it in to suit your needs.

i use a 14" cutout on 24" bass drums. (i tried 6" 8" 10" & 12" also)
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#8 Posted : 8/25/2017 8:28:59 AM
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Tama starclassicc black with white lettering resos discontinued i believe the eq 3 is the equivalent emad2s on the batter's the virgin kick just the small foam ring the original kick that i have my toms off of no foam rings want them to sound similar but not the same. Dont get that kick port thing i have a tama starclassicc logo resonant with a 4" kick port that i fight the sound guy tooth and nail before I'll put it on to me a hole in the reso takes the thunder out of the bass. Both reso and batter's are jaw.then tuned at each lug. Folded single bed comforter barely touching the resonant head is all I need
2012.- 9pc. Starclassic Performer B/B. (BNZ)
7x8,9x10,10x12,12x14,14x16,16x18" toms.
2-18x22" kicks (one virgin).
5.5 x14" matching snare
Speed Cobra single pedals & Road Pro hardware.
Sabian AAX Series: 14" Studio hats. 16,17,18,19" Raw Bell Xplosion crashes. 21" Stage ride. 20" Custom Vault china. 10,12" splashes.

2008.- 5pc. Imperialstar (PB).
12,13,16" toms.
18x22" kick.
5.5 x14" matching snare
Speed Cobra double pedal & Stagemaster hardware.
Zildjian ZHT Rock Series: 14" hats. 16,18" Fast crashes. 20" ride. 18" china. 8" splash.
inkeye
#9 Posted : 8/25/2017 12:30:56 PM
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I recently switched out my kick drum heads from Remo's Powerstroke 3 and PS3 Fibreskin to Evans' Emad and EQ4 Calftone. While they are supposed to be in the same ballpark, I've found the Evans Emad and EQ4 has a bit more tone to them. I've tuned each side to finger tight and then a half turn after that. The batter side has an extra quarter turn (so 3/4 turn past finger tight). Sounds good so far.
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#10 Posted : 8/25/2017 1:46:12 PM
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I have the powerstroke 3 and a tattooed skin (skulls) by Corey evans on my imp nothing inside sounds pretty cool
2012.- 9pc. Starclassic Performer B/B. (BNZ)
7x8,9x10,10x12,12x14,14x16,16x18" toms.
2-18x22" kicks (one virgin).
5.5 x14" matching snare
Speed Cobra single pedals & Road Pro hardware.
Sabian AAX Series: 14" Studio hats. 16,17,18,19" Raw Bell Xplosion crashes. 21" Stage ride. 20" Custom Vault china. 10,12" splashes.

2008.- 5pc. Imperialstar (PB).
12,13,16" toms.
18x22" kick.
5.5 x14" matching snare
Speed Cobra double pedal & Stagemaster hardware.
Zildjian ZHT Rock Series: 14" hats. 16,18" Fast crashes. 20" ride. 18" china. 8" splash.
doublepedal
#11 Posted : 8/25/2017 2:05:57 PM
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Forgot to mention i have a Kevlar falam patch on every one of my kicks. They are there to protect the head but it does make a difference in the sound
2012.- 9pc. Starclassic Performer B/B. (BNZ)
7x8,9x10,10x12,12x14,14x16,16x18" toms.
2-18x22" kicks (one virgin).
5.5 x14" matching snare
Speed Cobra single pedals & Road Pro hardware.
Sabian AAX Series: 14" Studio hats. 16,17,18,19" Raw Bell Xplosion crashes. 21" Stage ride. 20" Custom Vault china. 10,12" splashes.

2008.- 5pc. Imperialstar (PB).
12,13,16" toms.
18x22" kick.
5.5 x14" matching snare
Speed Cobra double pedal & Stagemaster hardware.
Zildjian ZHT Rock Series: 14" hats. 16,18" Fast crashes. 20" ride. 18" china. 8" splash.
Geri48
#12 Posted : 8/25/2017 4:31:40 PM
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Batter side: either Remo PS3, Evans EQ4 or coated Ambassador
Reso side: Remo PS3 Ebony or coated Ambassador; with a porthole as small as possible to fit a microphone comfortably.
But never Ambassador batter vs. PS3 resonant.

Dampening. With coated Ambassadors on both side often just a felstrip on both heads, and maybe a thin blanket chaotically folded inside.
With PS3, often nothing (Keith Carlock style), often a loooot of homemade square-shaped pillow. Depending on the room, the microphone, desired sound.

Tuning: Most of the time batter JAW, reso at a perfect fourth. But with coated Ambassador on both sides and no heavy dampening I tune the drum way up - Bonham style. Even a 22x16 can sound Bonamesque enough.
It's like a sauna in here.

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Tama Stewart Copeland signature - SC145 chrome over brass snare drum.
Roadpro hardware, Iron Cobra hi hat stand, Multi Clamps, etc.
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