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SCP in TBK - cleanup project UPDATE 2: MATCHING KICK HOOP
allmijinct
#1 Posted : 4/13/2011 2:37:16 PM
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Hi again. Well, after figuring out the "mystery" of the Hazy 200 reso heads, I finally got around to the cleanup and refurb of these Starclassic Performers in beautiful Transparent Black. They looked to be in pretty bad shape when I got them, but it turned out to be mostly dirt and grime - just one bad spot of tom rash and a couple other minor road scars. They are definitely 2001-2002s, as they have the static (non-sliding) tom mount in the kick, and are six-ply toms and a seven-ply kick. They sound awesome in my basement (read: kids' playroom) so I can't wait to get them to our regular rehearsal space (a beautiful finished barn with a great "live" sound). The coated Ambassadors are a perfect complement for the birch, and the stock Hazy 200 Powercrafts still resonate nicely. (I now know that these heads come in 200, 250 and 300, which I assume to be roughly Diplomat, Ambassador and Emperor weights, but if anyone has any more detail on this it would be much appreciated, as I am sure I'll have to replace these fairly soon). So, here's how it went, step by step:

Here's how they looked at the store (I did not purchase the mismatched piccolo, however, I did find a matching SCP snare in TBK on ebay last week, it should arrive tomorrow):



Here they are home, stacked up with their older, red-badged brethren, awaiting some TLC:



Ready to begin, good view of the battle scars and those enigmatic resos:







Here's the "workbench." Yes, that's Martin guitar polish (it's still just clearcoat over a lacquered wooden instrument, right?), and Gulf household oil on the lug bolts as a nod to Grandmom, who bought me my first kit some thirty years ago (Grandpop was a Gulf company man, her house was always chock full of Gulf oil ashtrays, bug spray, notepads, household products, you name it):





First tom (8 x 10) and kick (18 x 22) done (yeah, it came with an Accutune batter hoop - I'm working on it ...):





A few nights later, the 9 x 12 and 11 x 14 get their due:



Starting the setup:





The tom rash appears fairly well hidden:



The view from the driver's seat:



Head-on:



Lead guitarist's view:



The whole setup:





And, after all that work, I finally broke down for a set of these:



Thoughts? comments? Let me hear it. Thanks!
Tama Swingstars (pointy-lugged, Red-T'd, Zola-coated classics) in Metallic White (mixed '82 and '83)
- - > 9x13, 16x16, 16x18 [Rogers for now], 14x22
- - > Coated Pinstripes over Clear Ambassadors and vintage Ludwig Rocker (16)
Tama Starclassic Performers (6ply, 100% birch, wood hoops, non-sliding tom mount) in TBK (2001 or 2002)
- - > 8x10, 9x12, 11x14, 18x22
- - > Coated Ambassadors over stock Hazy 200s
Tama Starclassic Performer 5.5x14 (2001-2) in TBK, Coated Emperor over Ambassador snare, 20 strand snares
Tama Artwood 6.5x14 (2004?) in CSB, Maple hoops, PC Reverse Dot over Hazy 300, 40 strand snares
Tama Imperialstar Mastercraft 6.5x14 (1984?) in Chrome, Emperor X over Ambassador Snare, 20 strand snares
Ludwig Acrolite 5x14 (1968), PS3 over Ludwig Weather Master, Ludwig 20 strand snares
Pearl Piccolo 3x13 in Liquid Amber, Genera G1 over Ambassador Snare
Remo Beeline Roto-Toms 6-8-10 with CS black dots
A. Zildjian: 14" New Beats, 15" Rock Hats, 21" Rock Ride, 20" Mini Cup Ride, 19" Medium Crash, 18" Crash Ride, 17" Med. Thin Crash, 10" Splash
K. Zildjian: 12" Splash

aje_drum
#2 Posted : 4/13/2011 5:25:22 PM
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Nice! A ressurection worthy of Lazarus :)
Artstar Natural Cordia - Wanting impossible to find 20x14 Gong Bass or equally unobtainable 20x18 FT
Starclassic Maple Marine Blue Fade with Gold hardware - Wanting 16x15 TT no SFR with or without hardware
Vintage Superstars Aquamarine - Wanting 20x14 BD, 14x14 FT, 20x14 Gong Bass (or Granstar Custom in Aqua, Super Maple or Piano Black) or 20x18 FT, 18x16 Gong FT (any finish)
My Tamas of yore...
Tama Snares - GR958 14x8 Superstar Gibraltar, AS658 14x8 Artstar Cordia, AW628 14x8 Solid Maple, SMS55 14x5½ Starclassic Maple, Custom 14x5 Powermetal Steel, AM155-10 Artwood Maple 10x5½
Wanted Snares - Mastercraft Series RW258 14x8 Superstar Rosewood, BE658 14x8 Artstar BEM, CF758 14x8 Artstar Birch/Carbon Fiber, AW458 14x8 Superstar in Aquamarine, plenty of others :)
Identifying Your Vintage Superstars, Starclassic Series Identification Thread, Gibraltar Snare Drum Versions
dreamkastor
#3 Posted : 4/13/2011 8:34:25 PM
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Tom rash should be a crime punishable by death! There is just no reason for it!!
2005 Starclassic Performer Birch 5pc Black Magic (10"12"14"14x5.5 snare, 22"kick)
2006 Starclassic Performer Birch 5pc Red Sparkle Fade (12"14" 16" 14x6.5 snare 24" kick)
2008 Starclassic Bubinga Elite 4pc in White Pearl w diamond inlay (10"12"14"22")
2002 Arstar Es 4pc Rock Chrome (12"14"16"24")
1998 Starclassic Maple Crimson Fade 8pc (10x10"12x11"14x12"14x5.5snare "16x16" "18x16" 24x18 kick x2)
Snares: Lars Ulrich steel, Kenny Aronoff 14x5 Trackmaster, 2004 Quilted Bubinga exotix 14x6" #75 of 300
tamasuperstar
#4 Posted : 4/14/2011 4:35:24 AM
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dreamkastor wrote:
Tom rash should be a crime punishable by death! There is just no reason for it!!


I totally agree. I can't understand why these people don't just raise the tom a couple of mm.
Ok, you've paid your money and you can do what you want with your own kit but I actually find it quite annoying!
And the seller often still wants top dollar!
Granstar I, Jet Black (24x16)(22x16)(8x8)(10x10)(11x10)(12x11)(13x12)(14x13)(15x14)(16x16)

Imperialstar, Jet Black (24x14)(22x14)(8x9)(10x9)(12x11)(14x13)(16x16)(18x16)

Imperialstar concert toms, Jet black (6x5.5)(8x5.5)(10x6.5)(12x8)(13x9)(14x10)(15x12)(16x14)

Artwood Birch Snare, Piano Black (14x6.5)

Bronze Snare, (14x6.5)

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allmijinct
#5 Posted : 4/14/2011 10:42:20 AM
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@aje_drum: thanks! I agree.

On the tom rash issue, I also agree, but I certainly got the benefit of the tattered condition these SCPs appeared to be in. They were originally priced at $599 on the website of a regional chain known for its used equipment. They were listed with just the double tom stand in the kick, some Frankenstand Sonor base with a Gibraltar single tom mount, and the mismatched snare shown in the first photo. When I first saw them they had already come down to $509. I got some more info and photos and had them shipped to my local branch for a look see, but I could already tell they were the all birch 2001-2002 models (from what I can tell, the TBK finish came in with the switch to all birch, so they had to be post-2000, and these didn't have the sliding tom mount so they had to be pre-2003). I know the guys at this local branch pretty well and figured I could chisel them down a bit more, especially since I didn't want or need any of the hardware, and also due to things like missing Starcast rubber mounting nuts, the Accutune hoop, etc. Then my guy told me that he could really deal if I came in and picked them up right away, as he needed to try and "make his month" (it was March 30). So I went in on the 31st, got another 15% off, traded in an old throne and a set of Stagestars I had (which had some pretty nice upgrades: Starcast clip-ons, a Mapex kick riser, and G2s and Ambassadors all around). After all that, I walked out with these diamonds-in-the-rough for two bills out of pocket! So I'm not that upset about having to clean up and rehab some tom rash. As a matter of principle, of course, I agree wholeheartedly that people should take much better care of their drums. There is no reason for something like that. And as a matter of fact, I could still read the outline of the name of the original owner's band on the torn Ebony kick reso I took off, and was able to find them on MySpace. If I was sure these didn't pass through one or more other owners before finding me, maybe I'd let him know what a bad job he did! Ha ha. Either way, it was amusing to see this kit in its original setting.

Thanks for the comments!

~ Chris
Tama Swingstars (pointy-lugged, Red-T'd, Zola-coated classics) in Metallic White (mixed '82 and '83)
- - > 9x13, 16x16, 16x18 [Rogers for now], 14x22
- - > Coated Pinstripes over Clear Ambassadors and vintage Ludwig Rocker (16)
Tama Starclassic Performers (6ply, 100% birch, wood hoops, non-sliding tom mount) in TBK (2001 or 2002)
- - > 8x10, 9x12, 11x14, 18x22
- - > Coated Ambassadors over stock Hazy 200s
Tama Starclassic Performer 5.5x14 (2001-2) in TBK, Coated Emperor over Ambassador snare, 20 strand snares
Tama Artwood 6.5x14 (2004?) in CSB, Maple hoops, PC Reverse Dot over Hazy 300, 40 strand snares
Tama Imperialstar Mastercraft 6.5x14 (1984?) in Chrome, Emperor X over Ambassador Snare, 20 strand snares
Ludwig Acrolite 5x14 (1968), PS3 over Ludwig Weather Master, Ludwig 20 strand snares
Pearl Piccolo 3x13 in Liquid Amber, Genera G1 over Ambassador Snare
Remo Beeline Roto-Toms 6-8-10 with CS black dots
A. Zildjian: 14" New Beats, 15" Rock Hats, 21" Rock Ride, 20" Mini Cup Ride, 19" Medium Crash, 18" Crash Ride, 17" Med. Thin Crash, 10" Splash
K. Zildjian: 12" Splash

allmijinct
#6 Posted : 5/13/2011 1:24:36 PM
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So, the matching snare arrived and I did a little more tweaking (swapped the bongos for roto-toms, and added a drum set tambourine). Also, got 15" A. Zildjian Rock Hi hats. Thinking about putting the old 14" New Beats on an old X-hat multiclamp, but I need the clutch and rubber sleeves. Anyway, here are some photos.













Sexy, huh?



Tama Swingstars (pointy-lugged, Red-T'd, Zola-coated classics) in Metallic White (mixed '82 and '83)
- - > 9x13, 16x16, 16x18 [Rogers for now], 14x22
- - > Coated Pinstripes over Clear Ambassadors and vintage Ludwig Rocker (16)
Tama Starclassic Performers (6ply, 100% birch, wood hoops, non-sliding tom mount) in TBK (2001 or 2002)
- - > 8x10, 9x12, 11x14, 18x22
- - > Coated Ambassadors over stock Hazy 200s
Tama Starclassic Performer 5.5x14 (2001-2) in TBK, Coated Emperor over Ambassador snare, 20 strand snares
Tama Artwood 6.5x14 (2004?) in CSB, Maple hoops, PC Reverse Dot over Hazy 300, 40 strand snares
Tama Imperialstar Mastercraft 6.5x14 (1984?) in Chrome, Emperor X over Ambassador Snare, 20 strand snares
Ludwig Acrolite 5x14 (1968), PS3 over Ludwig Weather Master, Ludwig 20 strand snares
Pearl Piccolo 3x13 in Liquid Amber, Genera G1 over Ambassador Snare
Remo Beeline Roto-Toms 6-8-10 with CS black dots
A. Zildjian: 14" New Beats, 15" Rock Hats, 21" Rock Ride, 20" Mini Cup Ride, 19" Medium Crash, 18" Crash Ride, 17" Med. Thin Crash, 10" Splash
K. Zildjian: 12" Splash

burrito
#7 Posted : 5/13/2011 5:17:36 PM
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Sexy a LOT !!! :)))
It washes like a dog...
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Bass drum: 24x18
Tom-Toms: 8x7, 10x8,12x9, 13x10x 14x11
Floor-toms: 16x16, 18x16
Snare drums: Bell brass 6,5x14 (LUBB), Starclassic bubinga Elite 8x14 (nigttfall green cordia), Manic drum custom made 6.5x14 palisander rosewood snare drum with Tama Starclassic hardware

All Zidjian cymbals ... A rock ride 21', A medium crash 19', A medium thin crash 19', A thin crash 18', A fast crash 18', Oriental china trash 12'&18', A custom china 20', Acustom mastersound HiHats 14', K custom splash 8'&10'

All tama Hardware(including Twin&sigle limited CROME COBRA),
tama931
#8 Posted : 5/13/2011 8:33:16 PM
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Very nice. Great job on the restoration.
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Kick- 20x22
Tom Toms- 6.5x10,7x12
Floor Tom- 12x14 and 14x16
Snare- 6x14 Starphonic Limited Edition Steel
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allmijinct
#9 Posted : 5/17/2011 4:11:41 PM
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Hey, thanks for the nice comments guys. Happy
Tama Swingstars (pointy-lugged, Red-T'd, Zola-coated classics) in Metallic White (mixed '82 and '83)
- - > 9x13, 16x16, 16x18 [Rogers for now], 14x22
- - > Coated Pinstripes over Clear Ambassadors and vintage Ludwig Rocker (16)
Tama Starclassic Performers (6ply, 100% birch, wood hoops, non-sliding tom mount) in TBK (2001 or 2002)
- - > 8x10, 9x12, 11x14, 18x22
- - > Coated Ambassadors over stock Hazy 200s
Tama Starclassic Performer 5.5x14 (2001-2) in TBK, Coated Emperor over Ambassador snare, 20 strand snares
Tama Artwood 6.5x14 (2004?) in CSB, Maple hoops, PC Reverse Dot over Hazy 300, 40 strand snares
Tama Imperialstar Mastercraft 6.5x14 (1984?) in Chrome, Emperor X over Ambassador Snare, 20 strand snares
Ludwig Acrolite 5x14 (1968), PS3 over Ludwig Weather Master, Ludwig 20 strand snares
Pearl Piccolo 3x13 in Liquid Amber, Genera G1 over Ambassador Snare
Remo Beeline Roto-Toms 6-8-10 with CS black dots
A. Zildjian: 14" New Beats, 15" Rock Hats, 21" Rock Ride, 20" Mini Cup Ride, 19" Medium Crash, 18" Crash Ride, 17" Med. Thin Crash, 10" Splash
K. Zildjian: 12" Splash

killerkick
#10 Posted : 5/17/2011 5:11:59 PM
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Great looking restore job...very nice for your investment...dig the white kick reso.
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allmijinct
#11 Posted : 5/18/2011 11:34:46 AM
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Thanks killerkick. Best $200 I ever spent on gear. I got that white reso to give a retro look to the vintage Swingstars seen in the second photo. It was the only white logo head I could find in a 22", and I was actually bummed at the time that it had a SC logo on the bottom. Then when I got these SCPs I was debating whether to go black or white, and I came across a 22" clear pinstripe with a factory original Tama logo (while searching fleabay for a SC hoop to replace the Accutune). I thought "that Pinstripe would look perfect on the Swingstars," so I took it as another sign (in addition to the logo) to shift this white reso to the Starclassics. Glad I did.
Tama Swingstars (pointy-lugged, Red-T'd, Zola-coated classics) in Metallic White (mixed '82 and '83)
- - > 9x13, 16x16, 16x18 [Rogers for now], 14x22
- - > Coated Pinstripes over Clear Ambassadors and vintage Ludwig Rocker (16)
Tama Starclassic Performers (6ply, 100% birch, wood hoops, non-sliding tom mount) in TBK (2001 or 2002)
- - > 8x10, 9x12, 11x14, 18x22
- - > Coated Ambassadors over stock Hazy 200s
Tama Starclassic Performer 5.5x14 (2001-2) in TBK, Coated Emperor over Ambassador snare, 20 strand snares
Tama Artwood 6.5x14 (2004?) in CSB, Maple hoops, PC Reverse Dot over Hazy 300, 40 strand snares
Tama Imperialstar Mastercraft 6.5x14 (1984?) in Chrome, Emperor X over Ambassador Snare, 20 strand snares
Ludwig Acrolite 5x14 (1968), PS3 over Ludwig Weather Master, Ludwig 20 strand snares
Pearl Piccolo 3x13 in Liquid Amber, Genera G1 over Ambassador Snare
Remo Beeline Roto-Toms 6-8-10 with CS black dots
A. Zildjian: 14" New Beats, 15" Rock Hats, 21" Rock Ride, 20" Mini Cup Ride, 19" Medium Crash, 18" Crash Ride, 17" Med. Thin Crash, 10" Splash
K. Zildjian: 12" Splash

allmijinct
#12 Posted : 1/26/2012 5:04:32 PM
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Well, I was finally able to find a matching wood rim for this kick. Put it on and it looks great. I'll re-shoot the whole kit next time it's set up and post some more pics. For now, here's the kick with both matching TBK hoops.



And by the way, there's a cheap Accu - Tune on ebay right now if anyone is interested. Ha ha.
Tama Swingstars (pointy-lugged, Red-T'd, Zola-coated classics) in Metallic White (mixed '82 and '83)
- - > 9x13, 16x16, 16x18 [Rogers for now], 14x22
- - > Coated Pinstripes over Clear Ambassadors and vintage Ludwig Rocker (16)
Tama Starclassic Performers (6ply, 100% birch, wood hoops, non-sliding tom mount) in TBK (2001 or 2002)
- - > 8x10, 9x12, 11x14, 18x22
- - > Coated Ambassadors over stock Hazy 200s
Tama Starclassic Performer 5.5x14 (2001-2) in TBK, Coated Emperor over Ambassador snare, 20 strand snares
Tama Artwood 6.5x14 (2004?) in CSB, Maple hoops, PC Reverse Dot over Hazy 300, 40 strand snares
Tama Imperialstar Mastercraft 6.5x14 (1984?) in Chrome, Emperor X over Ambassador Snare, 20 strand snares
Ludwig Acrolite 5x14 (1968), PS3 over Ludwig Weather Master, Ludwig 20 strand snares
Pearl Piccolo 3x13 in Liquid Amber, Genera G1 over Ambassador Snare
Remo Beeline Roto-Toms 6-8-10 with CS black dots
A. Zildjian: 14" New Beats, 15" Rock Hats, 21" Rock Ride, 20" Mini Cup Ride, 19" Medium Crash, 18" Crash Ride, 17" Med. Thin Crash, 10" Splash
K. Zildjian: 12" Splash

spa32
#13 Posted : 2/2/2012 1:33:00 AM
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Great job on the restoration! Clap What are your thoughts on the new round rider throne?
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#14 Posted : 2/2/2012 3:40:26 PM
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allmijinct
#15 Posted : 3/15/2012 1:13:06 AM
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Hey, thanks spa32! I love the rounded top throne. I looked at the ergo-rider and wide rider and they were both, well, too wide. I bought the "squared-off" round rider but it still dug into the back of my thighs. This one is perfect. The backrest is key and the cloth top eliminates that embarrASSing sweat mark after each set.

And wow! Props from Tom@Tama! I have arrived.

Seriously, thanks guys. It was a fun project and it's nice to share it with folks who appreciate it.
Tama Swingstars (pointy-lugged, Red-T'd, Zola-coated classics) in Metallic White (mixed '82 and '83)
- - > 9x13, 16x16, 16x18 [Rogers for now], 14x22
- - > Coated Pinstripes over Clear Ambassadors and vintage Ludwig Rocker (16)
Tama Starclassic Performers (6ply, 100% birch, wood hoops, non-sliding tom mount) in TBK (2001 or 2002)
- - > 8x10, 9x12, 11x14, 18x22
- - > Coated Ambassadors over stock Hazy 200s
Tama Starclassic Performer 5.5x14 (2001-2) in TBK, Coated Emperor over Ambassador snare, 20 strand snares
Tama Artwood 6.5x14 (2004?) in CSB, Maple hoops, PC Reverse Dot over Hazy 300, 40 strand snares
Tama Imperialstar Mastercraft 6.5x14 (1984?) in Chrome, Emperor X over Ambassador Snare, 20 strand snares
Ludwig Acrolite 5x14 (1968), PS3 over Ludwig Weather Master, Ludwig 20 strand snares
Pearl Piccolo 3x13 in Liquid Amber, Genera G1 over Ambassador Snare
Remo Beeline Roto-Toms 6-8-10 with CS black dots
A. Zildjian: 14" New Beats, 15" Rock Hats, 21" Rock Ride, 20" Mini Cup Ride, 19" Medium Crash, 18" Crash Ride, 17" Med. Thin Crash, 10" Splash
K. Zildjian: 12" Splash

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