Hi folks,,. I just wish to coment regarding a few remarks ab. the "flanged hoops".
as I understand, there is a thought that just for that they are "cheaper", = bad..?
Not to my knowledge,,. It´s ab. the level of quality in each stepp regarding production..
The Silverstar kitt I just received, sounds & feels absolutly top-class.
( I changed the batter head´s to coated & thicker, for a "fatter" sound.)
I have a Superstar H-D as well, and there is just the shear basic difference,
as You can expekt with these different hoops. For me, well, the Tama guy´s is just to
congratulate for a very, very nice new line, and to a price-range that is amazing..
The risk is only that this line can be misstaken for "low-end" quality??
So, once again,, Can just say; this drums sounds just greate !!

Hi audiotech. Than´x for Your comment.. Yes, I will have great help & fun with this "baby-kitt".( VL50S in TRB )
This is my 4 Tama set, and I guess the next will be a the Bubinga line. So, the thickness of the tripple flange hoops,
is what makes the differance then? I thought, that if the shells bearings are "perfect", the the thickness of the rims
just doesnt matter. Due to that they in this case are thin, give me the feeling that they doesn´t restict the shell to "sing".
Well, I maybe just talking gibberish, but they just sound´s soo damn nice.

Regards, Frippi

As far as triple flange to die cast hoops I have noticed that my die cast hoops stay in tune better. When I had the my Rockstars they were flange hoops and they would go out of tune quicker than my Superstar Hyper-drives. I have also heard talk about triple flange hoops warping. Whether there is truth or not to this statement I don't know. I personally have seen some that were warped but I feel it was not from normal wear and tear. It was from being mistreated. As far as my preference goes I prefer die cast because they seem to tune more consistantly and stay in tune longer. This is merely my opinion though.

Hi guy´s.. Thank´s again for Your sharing thoughts in this matter. Yes, I know fully get the explanation
to why, in the long past, I had that "wired" problem to tune one of my snares,,. Shurely must have being
that the hoop was "twisted" & caused the trouble for me..
Guess that if I run in to a simmilar result with my new "babies", I replace them with slightly ticker,
cause the cast hoops will let me just have a simmilar feel / sounding drum kit as my Superstar,, sort of.. Now,,, I have started to lay out my plans to expand my "kit palett" with a Starclassic Bubinga or a Birch/ Bubinga. Will try to listen to the different sound & character between those kits.
Any comments greatfully accepted,,,,,,,,
Regardzzz Frippi

Scratch what i just said. I love my silverstars, and i aint gonna replace them with any superstars.

Interestingly, the new Pearl Reference Pure line has 1.6mm flanged hoops as do the Yamaha Vintage series snare drums

It's correct about the Pearl Reference Pure kits, but they're a newer type of hoops called "fat tone hoops". They are completely folded onto themselves, hemmed and welded at the very top of the hoops giving them a bit more strength. Where as most other 1.6 triple flange hoops are just left open at the top edge of the hoop and not folded. The Pure drums are an economy version of the standard Reference series selling at between $500 to $1000 USD less. It was one area where Pearl could save money, just as they did on their Vision series drums. You'll also see 1.6 mm hoops in such drums as CB, Accent, Catalina Club Rock and Jazz, bottom of the entry level Yamaha drums and many others. It is one specification many drum manufacturers don't care to express or publicize because it is not a good selling point. I've seen 1.6 mm hoops warp a few times. I'm not telling anyone not to buy them, but I am expressing concerns of what can and probably will happen. I am typing from experience, that's why I say at least check your snare drum hoops when you do head changes because they are the ones that take considerable torque because of their high degree of tuning tensions.

Dennis

i have True hoops on my new DW kit and man those are nice.

http://www.dwdrums.com/drums/collectors/featsopts/hardware.asp

beautiful snare Dennis.

You could also upgrade to S-Hoops.

Curious to know what you guys think of the Silver's projection. I haven't really had the chance to sit down behind a kit yet but from what I've heard/read, they dont project as much as the starclassic equivilant. Not that this is a bad thing at all, but have been told the Silvers give off a feel like you can "dig in" to them without blowing people away say in a church or smaller venue setting.

Thoughts?