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mdlrat
#1 Posted : 9/15/2011 3:48:52 PM
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My spring just broke after only a few months of use. I realize it is cheap to replace but the hassle of warranty makes it eaiser to order a replacement, so I ordered a HP9007H, actually 2 so I will have a spare. It broke at the bend where it connects to the tensionerWall
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#2 Posted : 9/15/2011 5:04:57 PM
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Sorry to hear about it. Where was this set up? You could always have the dealer contact us to ensure it goes under warranty. Well, one of them anyway
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#3 Posted : 9/15/2011 9:19:22 PM
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Got it from Guitar Center Atlanta. Is the spring I ordered a good replacement for the HP910-7S it is suppose to use. If you want to send me a spring you can it is just too much hassle to go into Atlanta for a $5 spring for warranty.
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#4 Posted : 9/16/2011 9:07:36 AM
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Yeah, I can understand that.

I sent a PM to you if you want to work out a replacement directly.
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#5 Posted : 9/16/2011 10:09:56 AM
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Tom, sent you a message, thanks
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#6 Posted : 12/4/2011 4:08:07 PM
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Greetings All,

What was the solution to this, I too have gone through a few springs since purchase in earlier 2011. Initially a Tama Rep was incredibly responsive in quickly sending out replacements, but would be interested in knowing if there's been a replacement that's proven a longer term solution.

- Was the HP9007H a good replacement/solution ?

Great pedal, btw, but the spring thing is a bit frustrating.
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#7 Posted : 1/8/2012 10:03:47 PM
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The 7H was ok but the 7S feels better. I believe the 7H has less coils and a bit heavier in feel. i have an extra 7H but need to get another 7S or two for a spare
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#8 Posted : 2/5/2012 11:44:52 PM
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I guess I'm joining the Speed Cobra "broken spring" club! I just did it earlier today during practice. I have had my pedal for just over a year now so I'm not expecting any replacements. Just curious that this seems to be happening. I have 2 IC singles and 1 double from over 10 years ago and have never had a problem with springs before.

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#9 Posted : 2/9/2012 12:13:54 AM
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More good news about my busted spring (Heavy sarcasm)

I ordered through a local music store and they are not in stock at EFKAY. So I get to wait potentially 5 or 6 WEEKS until it comes in. I ordered two incase I break another spring in the next little while.

It is probably a good idea for anyone out there with a Speed Cobra to snag an extra spring - you just never know if it is going to break.


Thankfully I still have my 2nd Gen Iron Cobra to get me through - never snapped a spring in over 10 years ( fingers crossed).
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#10 Posted : 2/9/2012 3:59:23 PM
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sorry to hear about the wait, dreamkastor!

This isn't a wide running issue or anything. In addition to the few instances we've saw on here, there have only been a few phone calls.

More times than not, the warranty covered the issue. In your case, I don't think it will, sadly.

We've determined most of it comes down to techinque, playing style, and settings. Unfortunately all of these factors can contribute to the problem. This isn't saying you have bad techique, styles, and settings, haha, don't get me wrong. It's just saying certain combinations of things could increase the wear and tear on these.

Hopefully that makes some sense.

Either way, we see things like this and definitely look into them. If there is an issue, and we find out, we'll get you squared away.
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#11 Posted : 2/9/2012 5:18:08 PM
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Thanks Tom for your input.

I personnally think it is a good practice to keep cheap, replaceable components on hand - especially when there is a long wait time for parts. Not suggesting there is an epidemic here!

As for the settings etc. I was using the SpeedCobra on a kick practice pad. Very different feel/response versus a real drum. I guess I'll know if that is a factor if I break the replacement.
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#12 Posted : 2/22/2012 4:19:56 AM
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I just broke broke a spring (left side)!!! Doh I've attached a picture of it. I've had my speed cobra double pedals for about a year. I'm hoping they are still under warranty. Yeah, just practicing with a Pearl BD10 bass drum practice pad and snap! It broke where the bottom spring hoop connects to the tensioner. I would say the tension on my pedals are medium, definitely not maxed out. I made the switch from Pearl pedals to these. I love my Speed Cobras but this is the first time I have ever broken a tension spring on a bass drum pedal and I've been playing longer than I care to admit. Kind of bummed and a little worried about the reliability. I'm just glad it happened when I was practicing. Thanks to those that have posted this info. I'll be calling Tama sales tomorrow to see about ordering a few new springs.

Hey, was the part number listed earlier for the spring correct?
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#13 Posted : 2/22/2012 5:08:40 PM
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Ok, found my receipt and found out there are four days left before I'm out of the 1 year warranty period. I called Hoshino customer service explained the problem and found out that they will not have the springs in until May and there may be a possibility they will not be in by then! Wall The service rep told me that a good substitute was a spring replacement from the Iron Cobra but the feel would be different. The service rep thought that Guitar Center might keep them in stock but could not be sure. I'm pretty bummed right now...and I forgot to ask the service rep on the phone if I could order more springs. I did, however, shoot him an email with all my info and asking if I could order aditional springs. We'll see what happens.
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#14 Posted : 2/22/2012 8:31:19 PM
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So just the spring itself is broken? If so, check here at Gordon LaSalle Music, they claim to have the correct spring in stock it in stock. http://www.gordonlasalle...bra+Pedal+Spring/89514/
The part number appears to be HP910-7S

Perhaps customer buys spring and Tama remimburses cost so he can he it under warranty???
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#15 Posted : 2/23/2012 4:41:44 PM
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Sandman, thank you so much! I put an online order in last night. They haven't sent me a mailing confirmatin yet but I'll post it if they do to let people know they have them in stock. Also, Brian from Tama shot me an email letting me know that they were sending me Iron Cobra springs to hold me over. I have to say I am more than happy with Tama's service...props to Brian and thanks again Sandman! Clap
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#16 Posted : 2/23/2012 6:02:46 PM
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Always glad to help out a drum brother/sister in need. A great thing to do when you need a part in a pinch is to get the Tama part number, type in "Tama HP900-77"(example) into Google and do a search. Whenever I am looking for even the smallest part, that's what I do and normally find a dealer that has it somewhere.

Tama USA should look into stockpiling more parts like this for warranty purposes. I know the current business model in this economy is to run lean with minimum inventory but a balance of available parts is a must for customers with warranty issues.
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#17 Posted : 2/24/2012 3:47:45 AM
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Not that it matters but my spring broke at the same point except it was the one for my primary beater. I would say mine was tensioned fairly tight with a pretty long throw.
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2002 Arstar Es 4pc Rock Chrome (12"14"16"24")
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#18 Posted : 2/26/2012 8:55:37 PM
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Maybe the spring has to tight of a bend radius. The 7H will work but feels different. I suppose any pedal spring would work for that matter just the feel would be different. I found I had to trim the tag end just a little to make it a little eaiser to install. It would be inconvienent if it broke anywhere other than at home. i may experiment with some other springs
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#19 Posted : 3/1/2012 3:56:59 AM
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My springs arrived today....about 2 weeks early which is always a good thing.

The speed cobras are feeling nice after a month back with the ol' Iron Cobras. Might have to upgrade all my pedals at some point down the road...and my hi hatHappy
200? Starclassic Mirage Black Ice 6pc (10,12,14,14x6sn,16,22"x20 kick)
2006 Starclassic Performer Birch 5pc Red Sparkle Fade (12"14"16"14x6.5 snare 24" kick)
2006 Starclassic Bubinga 4pc in White Pearl w diamond inlay (10"12"14"22")
2005 Starclassic Performer Birch 5pc Black Magic (10"12"14"14x5.5 snare, 22"kick)
2002 Arstar Es 4pc Rock Chrome (12"14"16"24")
1998 Starclassic Maple Crimson Fade 8pc (10x10"12x11"14x12"14x5.5snare "16x16" "18x16" 24x18 kick x2)
1990 Artstar II Piano White 4pc (12" 13" 16" 22" kick)
Snares: Lars Ulrich steel, Kenny Aronoff 14x5 Trackmaster, 2004 Quilted Bubinga exotix 14x6" #75 of 300 MP 12" steel.
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#20 Posted : 5/16/2012 2:02:02 AM
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I've had the speed cobra double pedal for about a year and a half, my first spring broke on my primary beater at a gig out of town ( but I guess there is never a convenient time) I swapped my good spring over to finish the gig. I bought the pedal from the local Guitar Center, when I went back to get a new spring, the sales rep told me " there's nothing I can do, you should prob contact tama." and of course there is no way (other than this forum) to get in touch with tama. When the spring I swapped from my left pedal broke about 2 months later I used sweetwater.com to get 3 replacement springs, with shipping it cost me $65. When the 3rd spring broke after 4 gigs, I loosened the tension to the point of uncomfortable-ness. Now, 6 months later I'm on my last spring (5 total), every single spring has broken on my primary beater, on the top side where the 90 is. I'm not abusive to the pedal, I've never had any spring problems with my mapex double pedal or my other single pedals. I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm a little frustrated that this spring continues to break. Last time I checked you shouldn't have to keep a surplus of springs around to make sure you finish a gig. Are there any suggestions?
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