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Recent Starclassic Purchaser...Need to find out which model!!!
Frankthepro65
#1 Posted : 1/13/2012 6:30:38 PM
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I recently bought a used 6 piece Tama Starclassic set.

In doing some research to figure out what I got, I have to say I'm a bit confused. I need some help determining what year they are but more importantly if they are 100% maple, 100% birch or a combo of birch and basswood. With that being said...would there be a value difference between the 3 possibilities?

Please view the pictures provided.

Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.

Frank





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#2 Posted : 1/13/2012 7:41:02 PM
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check out this link

Not sure about the year but it looks like Starclassic Performers (all birch) natural birch finish.

and this is the link to the history of Tama catalogs which is also on the front page of the website
Drums: Starclassic Maple Magnetic Orange, 8x7,10x8,12x9,16x14,22x18 - Bright Blue 12x10

Snares: Starphonic Maple, Starphonic Aluminum

Cymbals: Paiste 14" Dark Crisp Hats, 8" Sig Reflector Splash, 16" & 18" Sig Reflector Full Crash, 22" Blue Bell Ride

Hardware: Tama Roadpro, Speedcobra single, Iron Cobra Lever Glide Hat Stand, Tama First Chair Throne HT350E5 ( w/fringe :-0 )

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#3 Posted : 1/14/2012 1:59:37 PM
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Originally Posted by: Stewart Moonrichozzio Go to Quoted Post
check out this link

Not sure about the year but it looks like Starclassic Performers (all birch) natural birch finish.

and this is the link to the history of Tama catalogs which is also on the front page of the website


Thanks for your help, I hope you are right. Of maple, birch and birch/basswood, how would they rank valuewise?

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As a guy who has owned a Starclassic Performer(100% Birch Shells) and Starclassic Maple Kit, I am pretty sure what you have there is an early Tama Starclassic Performer which is 100% birch shells. Your pix are too small to see any fine details but it looks like they have the old Starclassic Starcast Mounts(Black Ones) which were done away with in late 2005/early 2006 when they switched over to thicker Starcast Mounts in chrome/black nickel/brushed nickel finish that are still currently on the market.

Great drums for studio and live performance. I absolutely love the punchiness and articualtion of the birch shells. As far as value goes, the Starclassic Performers are a bit cheaper than your Starclassic Maple line of drums. Unfortunately with the economy in the crapper, the used drum market sucks really bad, nothing is holding it's value and it's a buyer's market right now. Can't tell you how much money I lost on both of my mint condition 2009 and 2010 model Starclassic Kits. I barely got 60% of the value. I would estimate your kit being worth somewhere in the $700-$900 dollar range for a 4 piece shell pack minus matching snare but again only a guestimate based on Ebay sales and Craigslist asking prices.
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Frankthepro65 on 1/15/2012(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 1/14/2012 7:58:33 PM
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100% birch in my opinion
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Frankthepro65 on 1/15/2012(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 1/17/2012 7:17:40 PM
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Look like birch to me too. And with that bass drum tom mount I'd guess they were made somewhere from 2000-2002.
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Frankthepro65 on 1/18/2012(UTC)
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They look very much like my "Performer" ( 100% Birch ) set I have had since 2001.
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Frankthepro65 on 1/24/2012(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 1/23/2012 10:39:02 PM
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From the hardware on your drums it possible to narrow the possible years of manufacture down to between 1997 and 2003. So all of the drums from between those years can be cosmetically identical, meaningyou won't tell them apart by hardware alone. The finish, which looks to me like Amber Gold was available for all those years (and more) so it can't tell us anything either. The 100% birch shell wasn't introduced until 2000, so there is at least potential for your shell to be the hybrid.

There were a couple of different hybrid shells as well, but for the years in question, the tom shell was 8 ply, 6mm, birch inner and outer with 'Japanese basswood' making up the rest. Bass drum was thicker 9 ply, 7mm, so one extra baswwood layer. By contrast, the Birch shell was 6 ply, 6mm for toms and 7 ply, 7 mm for bass drums. So the shell thickness was the same for both shells, but the number of timber layers with be different.

Unfortunately my eyes aren't good enough to tell from your small photos to make a definite call, but I think I can see more than 6 layers, which would make it the birch/basswood shell.
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Frankthepro65 on 1/24/2012(UTC)
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#9 Posted : 1/24/2012 1:44:18 AM
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Hey everyone! Thank you all very much for your assistance with regards to my post. Last week, I took some of the drums to a local drum shop and counted 8 plys...therefore they are birch/basswood. Bought them off of Kijiji and was told they were "birch"...a little disappointing. On the other hand, they sound great...I'm very happy with that.

Thanks again,

Frank
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