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philmets
#1 Posted : 2/14/2017 12:48:08 PM
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Hi TAMA friends,

Any of you guys tried the new Evans UV1 heads yet? Thinking of kitting out my SCM toms and SC G-Maple snare with them. Presently using clear G2's, and a PCRD.

I've checked out this youtube video, sound pretty good...

https://www.youtube.com/...=9BEm5PcKZ3I&t=309s

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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Haven't tried but you can't look anywhere without seeing a UV1 ad or someone endorsing it. Huge marketing push. I don't know if they sound different, but they are supposed to be more durable, finish wise, than a coated. I guess that is the 'magic'?

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#3 Posted : 2/14/2017 2:19:48 PM
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I've been considering these heads for a while now, but didn't dare to pull the trigger just yet.
So, what is the point of UV1 heads.
1. They are made from a different and more durable film than classic Evans G1 coated heads. It's not a classic mylar anymore, so I suppose it's similar to the Remo's new film which they use on Vintage Emperors (coated), Ambassadors Xs, etc. And these heads are way more durable than say normal Emperors.
2. The coating is supposed to last forever. The new film anyway makes the coating stick to it better, but also using UV light to cure it is most probably a huge chunk of the magic.

But, they do cost significantly more. So if they are as or even more durable than let's say double ply heads, then they could be a flawless victory for guys like me.. Unbeatable sound of coated 10mil single ply heads with extended durability.

P.S.: I actually hope they also make a double ply head further down the road, and maybe also a clear version, which would be made from a similar hazy/milky film just like the clear version of the Vintage Emperors.
On the other hand, I hope the Remo's Classic Fit heads will do the magic and fit on my Performers perfectly and eliminate the annoying buzzing. That would be rather splendid Happy
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#4 Posted : 2/14/2017 3:16:13 PM
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So I have some experience with them:

• I was one of the fortunate ones that received the prototype version of this head last year...and I was VERY impressed with the open, natural tone and of course the durability. I installed it on my Starphonic Aluminum snare...now the snare already sounded great, but boy did it bring that drum up another level! The head is very responsive, open, yet just slightly warmer than a standard G1 in my opinion. Been playing on it off an on for months...stick marks, where?? lol

• In December, I decided to install a set on my SC maple kit...open, warm, and needed to be slightly tamed, especially with the 16". I've only played that kit once since I've installed the heads, but my summary is you won;t be disappointed!

• I've also installed it on 2 other snares: my Benny Greb and my BB...sounds great, especially on the BB! Hope this helps someHappy
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#5 Posted : 2/14/2017 9:30:33 PM
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I have a set of these on-order from Sweetwater... arriving (hopefully) this week or next.
What I like about the approach is that supposedly, not only is the coating more-durable, but it's apparently "more textured"... a "deeper" coating which HOPEFULLY also translates to MORE of that pleasing "diffusion" you get with a textured head.

My purchase is for my small gigging kit: 12" rack, 16" floor... putting the UV1 on the 14" snare batter, and both BATTER and RESONANT for the 12" and 16" toms. Really hoping for the best. Ever since they switched to their LEVEL-360 head profile, their heads have been even MORE of a dream to tune - crossing fingers that these UV1s become a staple, and not something I replace in a few months.

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#6 Posted : 3/4/2017 10:15:16 PM
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UV1's are on, and sound outrageously awesome, very happy indeed. Beautiful tone on the toms (SCM 10/12/14/16), with no dampening whatsoever. Snare (SC G-Maple) is crisp and sensitive, again, no dampening. I can confidently say, these are the best heads I've used to date, highly recommended...



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#7 Posted : 3/4/2017 10:30:31 PM
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Very nice philmets! They really did their homework on these bro Happy
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#8 Posted : 3/6/2017 12:38:39 PM
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So, I got them as well... re-skinned the kit and used for a full rehearsal...

My feedback is less stellar.

They seem to have a fundamentally higher pitch than, say, a G1 head. Once you get your lugs to a baseline tension, the pitch is higher than I would like for that-little tension.
Also, there seems to be far-more stick attack than tone - which might be fine for a maple shell, but on my all-birch kit, it sounds almost too brittle. Not a lot of sustain.

For clarification, I put the UV1 on both BATTER and RESONANT side of the toms and on snare batter.

I tried to get my 12" rack to "sing" like I usually can, it really doesn't do it with the UV1/UV1 combo. I tried different intervals between batter and reso and it really just stays "punchy" and not as warm.

The "feel" seems different to me as well... stiffer... hard to describe.

Lastly, when I DID try to drop a gel tab on the head to remove a bit of ring at one of the tunings, it sounded HORRIBLE.

In the mix of the entire band, they were "okay"... I was getting plenty of attack and clarity, but was really missing the "meat"... the "body"... not that Birch has much body to BEGIN with, but with these heads, it amplified the upper-mids and attack.

I believe I will be switching back to my preferred tom-combo of G1 batter and Generea Reso on the bottom.
THAT combo on the 100% birch seems to always "work" for me. Nice tone, more body, etc.

Just *MY* 2-cents... do with it what you will. :D
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#9 Posted : 3/6/2017 4:03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by: Starclassic_Scott Go to Quoted Post
For clarification, I put the UV1 on both BATTER and RESONANT side of the toms and on snare batter.

I tried to get my 12" rack to "sing" like I usually can, it really doesn't do it with the UV1/UV1 combo. I tried different intervals between batter and reso and it really just stays "punchy" and not as warm.

The "feel" seems different to me as well... stiffer... hard to describe.


I'm not sure if I'd use a UV1 for the reso...that MAY be the issue. I'd say give it one more try, on one drum, with a G1 clear as the reso (or the genera). Just my thoughts...
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• 5.75x13 Sonor BG Sig, 9ply/5mm beech
• 6x13 Mapex BP Nomad, 1.2mm brass, WC sig
• 6.5x13 Tama JB Sig, 1.2mm steel
• 6.5x13 Tama SC 1.5mm brass (1 of 2 made)
• 7x13 Tama SLP G-Maple, 13ply/10mm with WH
• 5.5x14 Tama BFM Sig, 8ply bub/1 ply quilted bub w/chrome inlay
• 6x14 Tama Starphonic Aluminum, 1.2mm seamless
• 6x14 Mapex BP Wraith 1.2mm brass, MH sig
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#10 Posted : 3/6/2017 6:29:04 PM
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Originally Posted by: yogi98 Go to Quoted Post
I'm not sure if I'd use a UV1 for the reso...that MAY be the issue. I'd say give it one more try, on one drum, with a G1 clear as the reso (or the genera). Just my thoughts...


I had the same thoughts this past weekend - easy-enough to try... generally, any time I've gone "same-head" for both sides and tune them closer in pitch, you get a nice open, resonant sound. Wasn't getting that with these.

Thought they might behave similar to a pair of coated-G1s on top/bottom (which sound nice).

I may need to go with a thinner reso to accommodate the "punch" of these UV1s.

We'll see what that does.
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#12 Posted : 3/6/2017 6:50:39 PM
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This new film indeed feels a lot different Happy Had a similar experience with Vintage Emperors at first, but after a while I really got used to them.
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#13 Posted : 3/6/2017 8:12:09 PM
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It's funny... it FEELS like whatever "process" they are using to apply the coated texture, it is making THAT PORTION of the film far-more rigid than the underlying film... so the point where the head makes contact to the bearing-edge is very thin and flexible, but the "flat-part" of the head is more rigid - I could probably get used to the feel if I can get the genera reso onto the bottom and find a tuning range that works on the all-birch shells. The gig I am working on/in right now does a lot of classic rock stuff which tends to lean more towards the lower tunings and if I cannot get these UV1s to sit comfortably in that range, I might go back to the G1s.
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#14 Posted : 3/6/2017 8:45:32 PM
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I'm just waiting for Evans to do Heavyweight tom heads. I love the kick/snare heads. But I got a chance to put the UV1 on my black brass just to see, seemed like it was way more temperamental then some of the other normal heads I'm use too. Might have to explore it again.
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What I'm getting by reading this, is that the UV1 is significantly different that a coated G1. Different resonation characteristics. Does that seem accurate?
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#16 Posted : 3/7/2017 11:54:15 AM
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What I'm getting by reading this, is that the UV1 is significantly different that a coated G1. Different resonation characteristics. Does that seem accurate?


Correct. Substantially different in feel and tone - not saying better-or-worse since those are subjective terms, but it is NOT (to me) just a more-durable version of a coated G1 by any means.
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#17 Posted : 3/7/2017 5:46:39 PM
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GREAT VID!!!

https://youtu.be/zAYcDc9LXWw
Yog!

Kits:
• 2010 Tama SC Maple in Piano Black: 7x8,7x10,7x12,16x16ft,16x18ft,18x20bd,16x24bd
• 2016 Tama SC Performer B/B LE in Fire Brick Red: 6x8,7x10,8x12,14x14ft,16x16ft,16x22bd
Snares:
• 5x12 Sonor Protean GH Sig, 6ply/6mm birch
• 5.75x13 Sonor BG Sig, 9ply/5mm beech
• 6x13 Mapex BP Nomad, 1.2mm brass, WC sig
• 6.5x13 Tama JB Sig, 1.2mm steel
• 6.5x13 Tama SC 1.5mm brass (1 of 2 made)
• 7x13 Tama SLP G-Maple, 13ply/10mm with WH
• 5.5x14 Tama BFM Sig, 8ply bub/1 ply quilted bub w/chrome inlay
• 6x14 Tama Starphonic Aluminum, 1.2mm seamless
• 6x14 Mapex BP Wraith 1.2mm brass, MH sig
• 6.5x14 Tama Bell Brass Reissue, 3mm

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#11 Posted : 3/7/2017 8:54:03 PM
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I'm not sure if I'd use a UV1 for the reso...that MAY be the issue. I'd say give it one more try, on one drum, with a G1 clear as the reso (or the genera). Just my thoughts...


I had the same thoughts this past weekend - easy-enough to try... generally, any time I've gone "same-head" for both sides and tune them closer in pitch, you get a nice open, resonant sound. Wasn't getting that with these.

Thought they might behave similar to a pair of coated-G1s on top/bottom (which sound nice).

I may need to go with a thinner reso to accommodate the "punch" of these UV1s.

We'll see what that does.


I'm running clear G1's as reso's, and it's doing it for me. As Yogi said, I can't imagine the UV1 making a good reso. That said, I haven't tried it, so I could be wrong. Let us know how you get on, and good luck.
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Great video from Evans featuring Nir Z, for those who haven't seen it. A true representation of the UV1 sound...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrE7cCv9a-c
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I just put new UV1 batters on all my toms (10, 12, 16). I had previously replaced the reso's not too long ago with Generas.
The batters they replaced were coated G2s (which I really like). The UV1s are quite different and I like them a lot. They definitely have a more open tone, and more sustain. The attack doesn't seem too strong, but maybe it's just masked by the open tone. They tune up really easily and they don't seem to have a lot of overtones (at least on my drums). They are also a little louder than the G2s from the drivers seat. With the G2 on the 10" tom, it was difficult for me to get a sound that didn't sound a little pinched, but the UV1 sounds great on it. The floor tom really opened up too, and for better or worse, lost a little "thud", but gained tone. They look really nice, and if they are as durable as claimed, they are a winner. They are definitely on the opposite end of the spectrum from the 70s thud heads (hydraulics), but it is a clean sound with nice tone. I like them.
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#20 Posted : 3/16/2017 10:44:55 AM
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I may try removing the UV1s as reso's this weekend.
That combo is just not doing it. At least I can use them as spare batter heads.
Will go back to genera reso's and see how I like the UV1s THEN. :)
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