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ohlarikd
#1 Posted : 7/16/2017 1:47:42 PM

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I was looking in Sam Ash Manhattan, where they have a large selection of snares. More than I have seen in this area. I was able to try the Kapur, the SLP Hammered, etc., and I came out thinking not much that moved the needle to my ears. Then the sales guy said try this one. It was a George Wey Single ply snare. Wow, on the first hit, that made an impression. And the feel it had was like you were hitting into it, like it felt good.

So I wonder - what are people's impressions of single ply snares? Was it just this one, or do they have certain characteristics that are common? It was NICE.
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#2 Posted : 7/16/2017 2:21:09 PM
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Ever since it was released, and I tested/played one, I've wanted a Star Reserve Maple 5x14. It has a wonderful punch/pop/crack and is very articulate, but I can't stand the gold colored/plated hoops. Too much pimp for me. If Tama offered silver or nickel plating versions of the brass hoops there'd be one in my quiver.

Star Reserve 5x14

I have not tried any of the standard Star single-ply snares. Think

Star Maple Single-ply 6x14

Edit: I've only toyed around with a Craviatto snare in the Memphis Drum shop. It sounded good but not $1500 good, and I didn't like the throw-off (for that kind of money, I don't want any buyer's remorse).
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#3 Posted : 7/16/2017 2:34:42 PM
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What was the GW snare made out of? Most likely it had 8 lugs which would give a softer feel to the head.

As far as shell construction goes, a multi ply shell will vibrate differently than a single piece of steam bent wood. Furthermore, the thickness has a lot to do with it as well. Thicker means less vibration and an overall higher fundamental note. Obviously the material used is a factor too.

I've played several single ply snares. The one common thing I can say about them is they all seemed to have a richer, fuller tone.
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#4 Posted : 7/17/2017 1:48:49 AM

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I didn't have enough time to get all the details on this drum. The shell was very thick though, but not sure of the material, other than it wasn't very dark on the inside. Seemed like it was not a stock item, but from the drum salesmans personal collection he was trying to sell.

It sounded controlled, is the best I can say. Some ring, but not a lot. No weird overtones. Had resonance, but not too much. Lower in pitch. I should have taken a pic, but I was in a rush. But it definitely got my attention. Price is a concern yes...
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#5 Posted : 7/17/2017 10:37:50 AM
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I doubt the shell was very thick but sometimes the re-rings give that impression. Bending a thick piece of wood can be tricky.

From the sound you describe I doubt it was a maple shell. Single ply maple tends to be quite ringy and bright sounding, actually kind of metallic sounding. George Way uses quite a few different types of woods for their drums and I believe they always have 8 lugs. Ronn Dunnett, owner and designer of GW drums is quite set on thin shell design and always uses 8 lugs for his snare drums.

I usually favour ply shell drums with exceptions though. My all-time favourite solid (single ply) snare is the Tama Star solid Mahogany. That drum kinda plays itself. Very sweet under the stick and incredibly rich and warm sounding.
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#6 Posted : 7/17/2017 12:59:14 PM

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Originally Posted by: Halldor Go to Quoted Post
I doubt the shell was very thick but sometimes the re-rings give that impression. Bending a thick piece of wood can be tricky.

From the sound you describe I doubt it was a maple shell. Single ply maple tends to be quite ringy and bright sounding, actually kind of metallic sounding. George Way uses quite a few different types of woods for their drums and I believe they always have 8 lugs. Ronn Dunnett, owner and designer of GW drums is quite set on thin shell design and always uses 8 lugs for his snare drums.

I usually favour ply shell drums with exceptions though. My all-time favourite solid (single ply) snare is the Tama Star solid Mahogany. That drum kinda plays itself. Very sweet under the stick and incredibly rich and warm sounding.



Hmm, maybe it was a re-ring and I didn't notice, I was surprised by the size of the bearing edge. Definitely had a warm sound which I liked. Very interesting and something I will look out for used in the future, especially if its Tama.

He did mention Ronn, wish I could go back and ask more intelligent questions now that I know more from you guys...
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2014 Silverstar Maple (Dale's Drum Shop Exclusive), Super Honey Burst, 10x8/12x9/16x14/22x18 with matching 14x6 snare
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